A. asiridol Active member. Attention to all users, please note this guide and other khronokernel sites will be shutting down on April 16th, 2020. From what I researched it was required but my sources could be incorrect, I am new to Hackintosh world. Opencore bootloader vs clover Posted on 12.04.2020 by Vuktilar OpenCore should be considered in Public Beta stage at this time and is intended to be used by experienced hackintosh users, developers, … Lol, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Snazzy Lab's video says Opencore is the way to go, but looks like a lot of posts in this group still prefer Clover. • Better supports filevault encryption. I have been using it for over 6 months now and have not had a single crash. (The guy that made the Lilu kext) • Better dual/multi boot support. Attention to all users, please note this guide and other khronokernel sites will be shutting down on April 16th, 2020. OpenCore không chỉ cho hệ thống Hackintosh mà còn sử dụng được trên hệ thống real macs (máy mac thật). My boot time isn’t great under clover. That's all great, but how are you supposed to install Opencore and a Broadwell laptop? See blog post and FAQ. clover.series.100.200.300 MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them … Yes, at the moment it's more difficult to set it up since it's beta but it all makes more sense in the end. Clover still has some features which OpenCore doesn't have. In fact, a micro clover-only lawn has been tried and tested by many individuals with much success. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/eoebx8/switching_from_clover_to_opencore_my_personal/. So, I did some research and I'll try to explain why you might want to pick one over the other. 1-2min boot on an SSD, which is very odd. I am not a noob, I tried to follow the Opencore guide but failed many times even with a perfect build. No one gives a clue about how to install Opencore on Broadwell, no documentation, no one talking about it. Now, we will discuss security specific to Hackintoshes. (This is helped remedied by guides and r/hackintosh willingness to help answer questions.) I skimmed through the linked thread and I’m really astonished to read that people find opencore better documented and easier to setup. - Backlight and Monitor - Trackpad - i7-7700HQ - Battery Patch - Camera and Audio (B&O) - Keyboard - dGPU GTX 1050 is turned off On OpenCore I translated everything except the battery (I just need to apply the If statement in ACPI), but I want first to boot on Mac OS using the OpenCore… It’s not horrible, but it’s not fast by any means. With all the mounting and editing to even get a complete boot and then to get a stable, working configuration, Clover Configurator and the other tools were a lifesaver. Dec 29, 2006 675 105 43 Still on earth. I almost updated to Mojave, but then I read my video card isnt supported in Mojave, so that was a close call! minor activity, … OpenCoreis a new bootloader designed to run OSX on non-Apple hardware. You speak of speed. It is also not recommended to duplicate every patch and option from … I wait a few days at most until theres a new clover revision, update my kexts through hackintool and update. Cons: • Still in beta so mileage may vary. OpenCore Configurator easy to install for generating OpenCore … opencore imho is way more complex to setup, its like rocket science. The last time they switched architectures they only supported the previous machines with 1 major update (10.5). That’s my only “issue”, if you wanna call it that. Micro Clover … I've had Macs since the Macintosh IIsi, and it was painful to have bought a $3000 PowerMac G5 and only have it supported by Apple for 2 years. I suppose migrating to OpenCore might be easier once you know the specific requirements of an already - running system. • Can be confusing and difficult to fresh install or switch depending on your setup. Same goes for boot time. The “getting started with ACPI” and whatnot on github is extremely convoluted, and a lot of the instructions are written in a way that can only be understood if you already know what’s going on in the instructions, if you know what I mean. I don't need it to pretend to be a Mac if I want to run Windows on non-Mac hardware. Also I can’t believe that it could be substantially faster, clover waits 5 seconds and the I get to the login screen in like 10-15seconds. • Supports UEFI and legacy boot. The company selling these Hackintoshes seems to have appropriated the name of the open-source … There's also no boot picker GUI which some people don't like but hey, it's only 5 seconds on boot so who cares? A more in-depth look can be found here: Why OpenCore over Clover and others. As I was scrolling through I noticed there wasnt a post or a list that provided a lot of information about the pros and cons of Opencore and Clover. IMO OpenCore is a bit harder to configure but much cleaner than Clover, also OpenCore is more "minimal" and "native" … In order to boot OSX on a variety of x86 hardware, OpenCore provides an interface to patch ACPI tables, kernel memory, inject additional OSX drivers/kexts… Here's my post about my experience along with a transition/guide on the process https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/eoebx8/switching_from_clover_to_opencore_my_personal/. Clover Pros: • Easier to learn due to it being the staple bootloader for the hackintosh community for many years and many guides have been made. I think if you're on Clover right now and have no problems with your system, stay on Clover. Like TGT bridge which is really useful on Laptops and a lot of other features where you just have to tick one box whereas in … • Vilevault encryption can work but can be very unstable depending on the system, so it's typically not recommended. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Place the config.plist provided, according to your CPU family (i.e 15h_16h or 17h) in your USB EFI Clover folder EFI/EFI/CLOVER/ and edit it as per your needs. From acidanthera: ApfsDriverLoader Open source apfs.efi loader based on reverse-engineered Apple's ApfsJumpStart driver Loads apfs.efi from ApfsContainer located on block device. The EFI is much cleaner and doesn't use this bloated and dilapidated clover setup. Can't update Clover on the System drive with full SIP enabled, due to how Catalina changed access to system paths. Also, fuck GUIs, in opencore you can set it to default to your Mac install, meaning you don't need to spend any time in bootmenu. I am fully enabling SIP in all of my Clover builds, so this is not always true. • Not sure if this is the same for everyone, but I've noticed more kernel panics and failed boots with clover. If you've got a weekend to burn to troubleshoot or is starting with a new build, then Opencore is the way to go since it will be the future of hackintoshing. All of this so far applies to every x86 platform. … Reason for this is we've decided to move the guides to a dedicated organization to help … Opencore vs. Clover … Both are pretty same for the end-user perspective, there are no advantages because if you don't know what features your missing, chances are that you don't need it. Press J to jump to the feed. A subreddit dedicated to running macOS on non Apple hardware. why would anyone want to use opencore on a real mac? Opencore vs. Clover Meka gana idea ekak denna puluwanda . Converting from Clover to OpenCore Supported version: 0.6.6 So you see the new fancy OpenCore bootloader and just dying to try it out, well you've come to the right place! A subreddit dedicated to running macOS on non Apple hardware. If I had time I would definitely tinker with it again just for fun though. Hey, for a newbie like me is there any easy start up guide for open core plists and ACPI editing? The documentation is excellent; I'm able to grok what each option does rather than just guessing. Tại sao OpenCore lại là lựa chọn tốt hơn Clover đáng để bản có thể sử dụng nó tại thời điểm hiện tại, Mình đã có 1 bài so sánh về OpenCore vs Clover ưu và nhược điểm của 2 thằng giờ bài này tôi sẽ lần lượt đi qua chi tiết các tính năng, hỗ trợ phần mềm , kext … của OpenCore . If anyone needs GUI he can use rEFInd with OC. Also I had never any issue with updating macos. OpenCore Configurator like as Clover Configurator will help you create custom configuration files for the OpenCore EFI bootloader via a streamlined graphical interface. Opencore is the future, mostly because it's more of a chainloader than a bootloader, it doesn't hijack like clover does and it means that you will rarely need to patch (if at all) anything between 10.15 updates. It also … OpenCore là bootloader thế hệ mới thay cho Clover và Chameleon. I just built a new hackintosh with opencore, and compared to clover, it was so much nicer. I feel like Clover … OC was less attractive to me in a dual boot setup, due to it pretending to be a real Mac to Windows. I have Clover dialed in beautifully and it loads every bit as fast as OC. Can confirm that Opencore runs cleaner. I also had zero issue updating to the latest version of HS last year, which I’m still on. Cons: • Reccomened for system integrity to be disabled so your more at risk. Please use the search feature:https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/ewohy5/opencore_vs_clover/. I recently switched from Clover to Opencore on all of my systems. Many things in Clover have feature parity with OpenCore but many do not, here we'll be going over what you can bring over and … OpenCore is a free open-source tool used to prepare a system for booting macOS. The problem is that is really hard to find someone that can help you and takes forever to complete a process of you are not assisted by someone who knows Hackintosh. • Supports UEFI and legacy boot. Clover 4.1.2 is the last release published by Atlassian. I definitely feel my system is less likely to break due to some random update now than before, although that remains to be confirmed since I haven't gone through that many updates with Opencore as I have with Clover. Laptop: (2rd Gen) Sandy Bridge OpenCore 0.6.6 (Fri, 12 Feb 2021 04:00:51 +0000)AMD Zen OpenCore 0.6.6 (Fri, 12 Feb 2021 04:00:51 +0000)Laptop: (2rd Gen) Sandy Bridge OpenCore 0.6.6 (Fri, 12 Feb 2021 04:00:51 +0000)Laptop: (8th Gen) Coffee Lake OpenCore 0.6.6 (Fri, 12 Feb 2021 04:00:51 +0000)Desktop: (4th Gen) Haswell OpenCore … Clover needs to mount / for the backup of the EFI Folder, the installer gets blocked if it tries with full SIP enabled like on a real Mac. But in unsure about this one, would you go with Clover or OC? This guide specifically focuses on two main things: Installing macOS on an X86-based PC; Teaching you what makes your … Let me know if I missed anything or have anything wrong and I'll edit it. Hi, I’m going to attempt to hackintosh a PixelBook (seeing the results of the poll I’ve started tells me that I kinda have to do it!) -Essentials kexts, configs and patches for Intel and AMD with Clover and OpenCore bootloader -Bios Configuration --> Disable CSM / SATA Mode AHCI -UEFI Mobos just paste EFI Olarila … Where's with clover, any new update will break something. Note: If your are making your own Clover … # Kernel Collections vs prelinkedkernel. In addition to being better designed and better coded than Clover, the legacy UEFI bootloader for Hackintoshes, OpenCore introduces security options to the boot process. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/ewohy5/opencore_vs_clover/. Opencore is the future, mostly because it's more of a chainloader than a bootloader, it doesn't hijack like clover does and it means that you will rarely need to patch (if at all) anything between 10.15 updates. Thanks bro. Sanity check your OpenCore config.plist. how could opencore speed up the regular macos boot? First I'll start with a pros and cons list. At least, that’s my experience. Thanks, I changed the wording to reccomended. There is honestly no question that OC is better than Clover, beta or not. Press J to jump to the feed. This contained a very minimal amount of kexts to get a mac booted. Reason for this is we've decided to move the guides to a dedicated organization to help … While sharing the name, the config.plist in OpenCore, is very different from Clover config.plist, they cannot be mixed and matched. Since 11-Apr-2017 Clover is open source. This same bundle is what OpenCore … I’m really just curious as my hack is working perfectly fine. Opencore Pros: • Faster booting • Better kext injection • Doesnt require system integrity to be disabled, therefore better security. Nov 5, 2020 #18 CloudX64 said: Thanks bro. While micro clover was designed for mixed grass/clover purposes, that doesn’t mean you can’t sow a pure micro clover lawn. Just an FYI, Hackintoshing has a very short future with Apple switching to ARM. • Made by well known hackintosh dev Acidanthera. I tried OpenCore as well and failed miserably. • Mileage can vary on kext injection. • Slower boot times. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. I‘m a clover user and never had any issues using the installer, tweaking a few settings using clover configurator and just use it. I’d love to fix the issue, but I also don’t wanna break anything as, like I said, everything works perfectly fine besides that. I don’t mind cause I power up and do other shit while it boots. “Fuck GUIs” says the guy who’s running MacOS... Hey I just installed open core and I’m actually trying to make my system skip the OC boot menu entirely—do you know if this is possible? Giúp cho “người chơi” dễ … But now that there is a fork that allows deactivation of any injection by OpenCore when booting non-Darwin OSes, I might take a look at it. I built my hack probably a year ago now and I did so with clover, but most of everyone here has been doing it via opencore. Install Clover on your USB drive. Clover vs OpenCore? Where's with clover, … (Clover) Cons: • Requires system integrity to be disabled so your more at risk. opencore imho is way more complex to setup, its like rocket … Which is a very handy tool to generate spoofed mac serial numbers and makes it more intuitive to edit the config.plist • Lots of different clover themes have been made so you have some customizations options. OC works more like a "real mac", and so it works even more like a vanilla system. minor activity, last release - 2013. actively developed, few releases / year. • Might be a little bit confusing to newbies due to having to edit the config.plist with a .plist editor like xcode and other reasons that we won't get into now. Reply. Since 10.7, the prelinkedkernel has been the default way for real macs to boot. My CLOVER is fully working. I just can’t wrap my head around any of it. So OpenCore taking SO LONG to become functional software really makes it a wasted effort unless you're planning on running old versions of the OS. Opencore vs Clover I'm still new to Hackintoshing and even after watching hours and hours of tutorials and reviews and stuff, I haven't been able to decide on which bootloader to go with. • You can use clover configurator. I‘m a clover user and never had any issues using the installer, tweaking a few settings using clover configurator and just use it.