All Marlo ever wanted was the street. AND, Marlo's strike was perfectly-timed, which doesn't get discussed enough. Bodie... the local kingpins, and even most lower-level guys, rule through fear. The guard wanted to speak his mind but didn't want to have the consequences of his actions. After some discussion with his staff, Carcetti meets with the interdenominational ministerial alliance. But Avon didn't RULE through bullying. In season 4 when the crew was having target practice in the creek, Partlow had a stance that would suggest he has some prior training He ruled EVERYBODY through fear. If people were scared of Marlo's enforcer, (special dead) then they were REALLY scared of Marlo. Avon is a populist, and rules as a representative almost. "Refugees" is the fourth episode of the fourth season of the HBO original series The Wire. Essentially, accomplishing more with each move when your opponent is merely "pushing wood" by moving the same pieces in circular patterns, with no strategic value added in the process. Later, Bubbles watches Sherrod pretend to read books from school. As her body slumps over and off of her chair, Monk steps over her, sits down next to Marlo, and pushes her out of the way with his foot. I think the mistake is in contrasting Marlo to Avon; Avon builds communal respect, eg when we see in s1 ep1 when he is carving a roast/turkey at a community hall dinner. Lollipops! Avon lost his temper, which he often did and never tried to hide about himself unlike Mister "Mask of fuckin' Sanity," Marlo... sure, he did. A similar example is when Marlo tells the coop that he is taking over, which really shows that for him it is all about being the guy who defines how the game is played. ), Anyway, the tl;dr is this: Both kings were ruthless and violent, because you had to be to be/come king. Look at Avon and the referee, he just wanted the referee to stick to his role and although he was quite a nasty bastard to him he didn't kill him. When Bunk and Beadie prepare to leave disappointed, he then states since they came all this way "you might wanna have a looksie at the videotapes." C hris Partlow, on HBO’s The Wire, looks around him and sees an organization getting used to things being a certain way, and with that the first creep of indiscipline and hubris.Chris (Gbenga Akinnagbe) runs the muscle for Marlo Stanfield’s West Baltimore drug trade, but, like Slim Charles did for fallen kingpin Avon Barksdale, he adds the value of a sense of proportion and history. After some discussion with his staff, Carcetti meets with the interdenominational ministerial alliance. Although credited, Lance Reddick, Deirdre Lovejoy, and Seth Gilliam do not appear in this episode. Royce organizes a poker game to raise money for his campaign; among his opponents is Krawczyk. He was just a sociopath and didn't know himself why he did dark and devious shit. Bunk and Freamon serve a warrant on Lex's home, where they find that his grieving mother has set up a shrine to her son. At Butchie's bar, Joe meets with Omar and assures him that he had nothing to do with Stringer Bell's scheme turning Omar against Brother Mouzone. There could be nothing worse. When Randy is brought before Donnelly, she demands that he tell her who is responsible for a spate of graffiti at the school. That was enough for Marlo, and he orders Snoop to kill the man for talking back. Because a king doesn't concern himself with such petty affairs. The security guard they find is a bit slow on the uptake and when they ask for the security guard who was there that night he states "Walt's not as up to speed as the rest of us." The security guards way, societys way, was that people respect authority. Devonne was a woman who frequented a club that Marlo Stanfield would hang out at. Yeah, that's how it'd go down. His pawn structure was solid and fortified by his pieces (for our purposes here, Stringer, Brother M, Sergei, Wee-Bey). This is partially because he was a "queen." But, I think that you have a fundamental flaw in how you view Avon. (THECOUNT) — Detroit Lions Marvin Jones Jr. announced the sad news on Instagram that his infant son, Marlo, has passed away.. Marlo, who was born earlier this past summer, was the fifth child between Marvin and his wife Jazmyn. Greggs joins Freamon in Homicide, and learns that Landsman shares her disdain for new Major Crimes Units (MCU) head Marimow. What sheer heartless pettiness, killing a man over a couple of lollipops. Ultimately Marlo doesn't actually get any moments where he becomes the king. - December 28, 2019. Instead he hands his money over and goes to the store. Chris even says to him that he's spending way too much on winning to which Marlo just says that he know he's close to getting them. I have come to understand there is a fundamental physics to Violent Non-State Actors (VNSA) that transcends country of origin or organizational motivation. Marlo was never very far from it to begin with, but all of his early killing were at least related to The Game. He may wear the crown briefly but he never even came close to the level of respect and power that Avon had. Marlo sends Partlow and Snoop to track and kill the guard. His name itself carried enough weight to not get D' killed while he was coming up, and even after he had fucked-up multiple times. Yes, he gave money to the kids on the street. Felicia "Snoop" Pearson is a fictional character on the HBO series The Wire, played by the actress of the same name.She is a young female soldier in Burrell orders Foerster to assign the case to Greggs because of her rookie status. To tie this in to the title how does this prove that Marlo would never truly be king? Who's the only person we've seen Marlo kill? I'm really wondering how Slim and Prop Joe learn of the bodies. I'd say the Greek had enough savvy to see which was the wind was blowing. His hair was black and he had silver-colored eyes. Avon was also a king, yes, but Avon ruled in a different way than Marlo did. I love your theory, but I think that Marlo DOES become the king... only to find that it isn't what he wanted. No one wins. Imagine THAT meeting... Marlo just, out of nowhere, pulls out a gun and pops Snoop in the back of her head while she's ranting about some bullshit in that voice that makes her sound like the Bodymore version of the Waterboy's defensive coordinator. (Had that security guard testified against someone, though, things would be different.) At Cutty's Gym, the man himself is standing concerned in the open entrance, looking for Spider who is late for practice for his fight the following week. The Wire re-up: In defence of Marlo | The Wire | The Guardian I still have no idea what 'one way' means. He feels that he has a mandate from the street, and rules with cooperation and respect commingled with money. But it isn't what he wanted. So now that we know who did what to who, and why, here's the problem. Except for me this scene means so much more and is the probably the defining moment in the show that shows that Marlo would never being the King. The two meet with Donnelly to discuss Sherrod's poor attendance. Elsewhere, Colonel Raymond Foerster meets with Burrell and Rawls to discuss the murder of the state's witness. (I'm seeing President Clinton and Vice President Cheney, but I'm a sick fuck.) While drinking with Bunk, Freamon theorizes that Marlo has not been linked to any murders because he is hiding corpses in an unknown location. DETROIT, MI. After re-establishing in his own mind that he is powerful Marlo becomes extremely focused on winning the card game. That's time wasted that they could be out SHOOTING turkeys for target practice. At Vinson's rim shop, Old Face Andre informs Marlo about Omar's robbery of his store. Related quizzes can be found here: The Wire Quizzes There are 185 questions on this topic. The security guard confronts him, telling him he knows who he is and isn't challenging Marlo, but tries to stand up for himself. He was just as willing to strap-up as Marlo, when there was a GOOD reason to. Dukie, Randy, Namond and Michael spend time at Cutty's gym and discuss the box cutter incident. Accuracy: A team of editors takes feedback from our visitors to keep trivia as up to date and as accurate as possible. Also comes in part where Marlo says 'My name is my name' after hearing Omar was talking shit about him in the street. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, I'll take any motherfuckers money if he just giving it away. You see those scenes well, and from multiple angles and time-frames, even. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. For example, enjoying the positional advantages he inherited & maintained during his reign, Avon was able to circumvent Marlo's play for the Greek. But there's always going to be a new king to challenge the old one with new pawns and bishops and knights. Totally. Mayor Royce meets with Parker, who thinks that campaign posters with Pan-African flag colors can help him shore up Baltimore's black vote, though Royce mocks the idea as tacky. 3 Did Deserve: Cheese Wagstaff Accuracy: A team of editors takes feedback from our visitors to keep trivia as up to date and as accurate as possible. My food's gonna get cold, but fuck it... the flame stay the flame. But, whereas Marlo reveled in it, dropping bodies for the dumbest or dumbass reasons, simply for the sake of his name in the streets... Avon used it to serve a higher purpose. (Do not, on pain of death, start with any other season!) And Marlo has Lex killed because he killed Fruit (one of Marlo's Lieutenant). When Andre tries to get out of a debt, Marlo demands that he hand over his diamond ring as collateral and tells him to pay what he owes. Marlowe was a young man whose black hair was in the style of a bowl cut and usually wore his Military Police Brigade uniform before joining the Survey Corps. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Marlo Stanfield, an antagonist of David Simon’s TV crime drama The Wire (2002-2008), walks into a grocery store to buy a bottle of water and pockets a lollipop in plain sight of a security guard. At the suggestion of AuntiePam, I’m starting a trivia game based on the best show on television evah, The Wire. I spent too much time analyzing The Wire due to the fact that I borrowed heavily from the material to help generate scenario-based field exercise training for Marine Expeditionary Units prior to deployment. Marlo got everything Stringer wanted but could not value it as all he wanted was straight up power. Marlo, unconcerned because his territory is on the West Side, declines Joe's offers of protection and ends the meeting. Were things 'just', Marlo couldn't just snake the lollypop with no retribution. But let's conjure up a scenario. But, for a time, Marlo was the king. Examples: Avon, Marlo, & Prop Joe all possess a distinct material advantage over Omar. Kenard would punk Namond just to … Foerster reluctantly complies. (I hate the word "tit".) Nobody would say shit to him. Marlo is the king. Marlo stole a lollipop and killed a security guard for daring to stop him. no one is ever king forever. He got everything Stringer wanted and could of cared less. … A perfect end for the character in my opinion. Contrast clearly made. Watkins watches Marla in a debate with her opponent, Eunetta Perkins, and is outraged when he sees that Royce has broken his promise and put Perkins on his ticket instead of Marla. (He shouldn'ta fucked wit' Bey's fish, doe...). Omar shows up and embarrasses him! Dozerman and Herc report to the MCU, and are lectured by Marinow about how they will be operating. Royce organizes a poker game to raise money for his campaign; among his opponents is Krawczyk. Richard De Angelis makes his final appearance as CID Colonel Raymond Foerster. Thank you! Can you imagine Marlo handing out turkeys at Thanksgiving? If so, I wonder if his badge is still sitting outside the place. The Wire : Frequently Asked Questions This category is for questions and answers related to Wire, The, as asked by users of FunTrivia.com. He then proceeds to humiliate the poor security guard and ensure his death later on in the series. Marlo on the other hand probably thought about the fact that he was having a random security guard killed. Marlo saw some drunk calling him a pussy to some smoker as a good enough reason to risk bringing the cops down on everything. He was rarely seen without a stoic and serious expression on his face. They also visit Bodie, who reluctantly agrees to sell for Marlo. THECOUNT.COM "ALWAYS OPEN! As David Simon has repeatedly said, "The Wire" is about the effects of capital's unchecked dominance. (Sure, the vacant houses were a great idea, to whomever it may have originally belonged, but they were a much less-permanent solution than many others could have been. Can you imagine Marlo having a problem taking-out someone who had already fucked-up multiple times, just because of a familial relation? That isn't what Marlo wanted at all, but rather he wanted to be the King in an authoritative sense. Marlo was a young man whose hair was in the style of a bowl cut and usually wore the standard Military Police Regiment uniform. Sherrod joins Prez's class. He learns that the school rounds up truants to meet minimum attendance figures it needs to secure extra funding, rather than to ensure they are educated. Why did Marlo pay for the bottle of water but steal the lollipops? His ability to maneuver through the battle space effectively drew his opponents into the open, pulling them out of the safety of their "castles" in an attempt to confront him decisively. It's a great post and I appreciate it. Marlo, handing over the ring, replies only, "Wear it in health.". He was rarely seen without a stoic and serious expression on his face. He gives money out to kids, pays Michael's friends to grab loyalty, kills people who oppose him, hires soldiers, and achieves power through a coup. What does Marlo steal leading to the death of a security guard? Holy shit, Cutty'd be so badass. Marimow watches Sydnor and Massey as they turn off the wiretap. The next question, of course, is why Marlo is the way he is, and why his organization is the way it is. I am assuming that Marlo had him killed because he did not want anyone alive that could say they stood up to … Wrong. To make amends, Joe offers information on Marlo's card game, asking for a quarter of the take. They were all leaders in a different way. What's the name of the school featured prominently in Season 4? Randy and Sherrod both use the disruption to leave the class; Randy is caught selling candy in the sixth grade cafeteria. So what does he do in the store? There is no police or Omar. Section: Today KANSAS CITY, Mo. For kids, ACTUAL kids, not "16 years-old and more man than I am" kids like Bodie... Biddie? As usual with these games, answer a previous question, and add one or more of your own. A king looks at the big picture, a wannabe gets hung up on crap that doesn't matter. Proposition Joe tries to convince Marlo to join the New Day Co-Op and aid their planned war with the New York drug dealers intruding into East Baltimore. Marlo is a king the way an African dictator may be a king. When Prez tries to get his students to open up about the box cutter incident, Namond and other students instead impertinently interrupt and ask about his career as a police officer. Boody? Is the body Randy and Daquan (sp) found that of the security guard Marlo had killed? (Later in the episode, Lester called Marlo a young lion that needed to kill.) I think it's worth pointing out that the only time there is one king on the board is when the game is over. the Greek saw enough business-savvy in him to terminate his dealings with Prop Joe, who he KNEW was reliable and even amicable, in so far as dealings of that nature go. Considering the timelines and lack of police intervention, it would be hard to guess. Marlo was a rebel king, and ruled through fear and attrition. Love your observastion. I sort of hope that security guard's badge being left in the lawn isn't how the cops end up finding all Marlo's bodies that are hidden in the rowhouses. The Wire : Trivia Questions This category is for questions and answers related to Wire, The, as asked by users of FunTrivia.com. GUARDS treated him respectfully, or at least were smart enough to avoid him. The episode title refers to the detectives fleeing the major crimes unit. So basically, Mouzone had left Barksdale employment before Avon was released from prison and was not interested in returning to it after he been … I'm pretty sure Marlo would have just as gladly taken out Chris or Snoop if he felt it was necessary, or even if he just felt like it. "The King stay the King," but the truth is that there is no one king. Thus his reason for putting himself in a God like position over the poor guard. This is the first episode of the series not to feature Reddick. I want it to be one way. You have material, positional, tempo (development) and king safety advantages to consider. ISIS, Los Zetas, MS-13 & Marlo's crew can all be dissected underneath a microscope for key similarities, as well as distinguishing characteristics. Heading out into the early morning sunlight, he calls Chris Partlow before stopping at a corner grocery, where he buys a water and - upon being coldly eyed by the security guard -- brazenly pockets some lollipops and glares at the guard. The main problem with this theory is the comparison to Avon, because Avon himself gets hung up on Marlo when he could have just walked away with his money. Colvin observes the students, seeing variation in how well classes perform with the best behavior in the younger grades. Marlo wants things to be a certain way too, but unlike the security guard he has the power and the agency to make it be that way. As the Spanish modified the universal rule set in the 15th century to reflect Queen Isabella's influence, so did Omar in the game at large. Agree with everything else though. Chris and Stringer might be "queens" worth 9 points, but Cheese would only be a rook worth 5 points. Colvin and Parenti meet with the school superintendent, Mrs. Conway, who agrees to fund their in-school program after being assured that the scheme will not bring bad publicity to the school board. Unlike Marlo, who'll kill a store security guard just for raising a polite complaint about his stealing lollypops, Avon has a sense of what's out of bounds. Knowing his chances, Carcetti does not outright ask for support, but promises his ear to them anyway, should he be elected. That poor ref still shits himself at night. He was also quite tall, especially when compared to his comrades. There was a scene in the show where Marlo shoplifted a pack of candy in plain view of the guard … He was an incumbent king. (Eventually, Stringer had to go "out of pocket," remember...) The fact that he got to basically be the stereotypical baby-kissin', hand-shakin' drunken Presidential candidate while Stringer played the public role of the mercurial, cleanin'-up-after-shit Vice President. Meanwhile, Bubbles berates Sherrod for missing school and warns him that not attending classes could mean the end of their business partnership. Sherrod takes out an algebra book and a French dictionary, claiming one to be a workbook that goes with the other. That assures their loyalty for as long as it takes them to spend it. I'm a long time lurker on this board and love reading the theories on here but there's one thing that bugs me and that relates to Marlo. She was surprised, frankly, … Jamie Hector, Actor: Bosch. Then, in season 4, he deliberately shoplifts a $.25 lollipop while making eye contact with the security guard just to tweak him. Prez learns that Chiquan will be scarred from the box cutter attack. Bubbles isn't fooled but says nothing about the ruse. Mayor Royce meets with Parker, who thinks that campaign posters with Pan-African flag colors can help him shore up Baltimore's black vote, though Royce mocks the idea as tacky. One way or another way. I don't think its the case that Marlo never became the king, but rather that being the King isn't what he wanted so much as being known! And, the Greek saw enough business-savvy in him to terminate his dealings with Prop Joe, who he KNEW was reliable and even amicable, in so far as dealings of that nature go. It also refers to Bodie being on his own in the streets after the fall of the Barksdale organization. Stringer rules as a corporate head. At the school, Colvin and Parenti sign confidentiality agreements and safety waivers. Avon > Marlo, I'll absolutely, 100% agree. In a convenience store, Marlo openly shoplifts just to taunt the security guard. Capital is the king. Royce has asked Burrell to slow the investigation so that no proof that the motive was the victim's upcoming testimony will emerge before the election. And, even though I'm about to say that it goes without mentioning, let's mention Avon's treatment in prison itself. However, the scope of the board varies amongst the players. Omar finds the opportunity to his liking and robs the game while Marlo is playing, taking Andre's ring and the money. The Brooklyn-born actor Jamie Hector may be best known for his role as "Naw, n#gga, I ain't never heard'a you, and you'd betta start sayin' Mister Cutty when you talk to me, ya heard? "But its the other (way)" means that Marlo is unofficially the king and everyone bows to him, What are you talking about? (Imagine "in his prime" Cutty vs. Chris? Ultimately Marlo doesn't actually get any moments where he becomes the king. Sure to the average person it may not look like Marlo was completely humiliated and he doesn't seem too hung up about it but the thing about Marlo is that even the slightest sign of weakness to him would be the equivalent of the greatest failure for normal folks like you and I. The guard takes offense and follows Marlo outside to shame the drug dealer for treating a working man as if he were invisible. King safety is another point of consideration that we can observe as a strength or weakness. Marlo watches Monk do all of this, looks at his gun for a barely-perceptible second, and then goes right back to what he was saying. Perhaps the most second most infamous moment that the character is responsible for is the, "you want it to be one way but it's the other" scene in which many people claim shows his sociopathic tendencies and kills for no reason. He doesn't defeat Barksdale, he doesn't defeat Omar and in the end nobody knows who he is and to a guy like Marlo? The chess metaphors serve well when in need of tools to further the conversation with colleagues who have come to "grok" the validity of a board game in VNSA analysis. (The double entendre is intentional.) Written by Dennis Lehane from a story by Ed Burns & Dennis Lehane, and directed by Jim McKay, it originally aired on October 1, 2006. Marlo orders the death of the security guard simply for doing his job and speaking his mind. I’m the security guard. The way Putin approaches politics is very much how Marlo views the drug game. I assumed Marlo was pissed off that the security guard wouldn't do what he was suppose to do. Watkins watches M… Like how many abuse victims later carry out abuse themselves, Marlo is fundamentally insecure in his mind and needs to prove to himself he's the king. I could write a whole post on that alone but for now it's safe to say that a reason amongst many Marlo was obsessive about Omar is that he took away his victory. I don't know, voice, again... or Chris' reputation. You lose pawns, you lose bishops and knights and queens, and at the end of the day, one king goes down and one king stays standing in control of the board. She invited him to another meet the next day, which was a set up. When Marlo tells Omar that this is not the end of their dealings, Omar warns him that he can find his people with less effort than Marlo will need to find him. This quote is almost certainly a reference to the 1975 film Night Moves, in which the protagonist says virtually exactly the same thing to his wife when she asks him who is winning a televised football game: "Nobody, one side is just losing slower than the other.". So, it's not like Marlo was without skills... but the timing of his luck simply cannot be ignored in his "rise to the top" either. Then, there's Marlo's methods of ruling. I made the assumption of 'justice' vs. muscle ruling things. Omar had a distinct advantage here until he didn't. I saw him as the Enron executive of The Wire - not an exact analogy, obviously. He was unhappy that the guard talked back to him, so he had Chris and Snoop kill the man. One way? I think it's important to state here that in The Wire, like in chess, there are multiple factors to consider when determining who is winning any particular head to head match. The security guard was not disrespecting Marlo, but simply was acing like they are equal. I'm up for a better analogy. but, he was the king. 1 Biography 1.1 Season 3 2 Production 2.1 Appearances At the behest of Avon Barksdale she had sex with Marlo in an SUV. Marlo didn't have another gear, though. Positional advantage is interesting because they are all effectively playing on the same board. He looked directly at the security guard when he did it, too, deliberately provoking him into a confrontation. People knew who he was from the neighborhood, and they knew who his family was, too. One thing that is forgotten is that this scene is actually heavily linked to the scene before it in which Marlo is at his usual poker game and he loses. She sees Bunk interview a witness who identifies Lex as the killer of Fruit. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Refugees_(The_Wire)&oldid=953607458, Short description is different from Wikidata, Television episode articles with short description for single episodes, Television episode articles with short description and disambiguated page names, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, Nicole Pettis as Miss Reese - sixth grade English teacher, Sheila Cutchlow as Miss Sheperdson - education bureaucrat, Mark Joy as Ed Bowers - Property Developer, This page was last edited on 28 April 2020, at 03:12. Tempo/Development advantages were displayed by Prop Joe & Avon, although viewers were given an example of how the tables can turn if one player is able to "open the center" and increase tempo relative to his opponents, as Marlo demonstrated. And no challenge ever goes unanswered, or you've already lost. The working man waits for Marlo's exit before confronting him outside. Stanfield soldier O-Dog gives Bodie a package of drugs and the terms of his business relationship with Marlo. The Deacon offers Cutty a janitor position at the boys' middle school. Michael starts Bug on his homework and heads to Cutty's gym. I thought I couldn't hate Marlo more, yet you've done it by summing up 5 minutes of screen time that portray him as a man with immense life or death power as a petulant child. Slim told Prop Joe in the meeting about the bodies, but how does Slim know? But since Marlo is Marlo, he can take the lollypop with impunity, then turn around and kill the security guard (civilian, not in the game). Big. Since 2005!" Avon was the Nino Brown-type that passed-out turkeys at Thanksgiving, paid families to be quiet, got on his people's asses for violating the "old school"-type codes that are always part of these tropes, (like the "Sunday Truce" thing) and generally tried to be a benevolent (relatively..) king. They did … He holds authoritative control, and pays for, well, not respect, per se, but the ability to rule. Afterwards, Michael avoids Cutty's attempts at conversation and refuses a lift to his house. Colvin meets with the eighth grade teacher Grace Sampson, who says that many teachers view the scheme as an unwelcome intrusion from City Hall. When Spider fails to show up for a training session, Cutty again offers to train Michael. But I like to think that, to some degree, the show explores government in a variety of ways, with a range of directness and abstraction. Reality is Marlo. While the boys head home, they learn that someone "snitched" and got a student suspended over the graffiti. Since Reddick was the only actor in every episode prior to this, from this point on, nobody has appeared in every episode. A king looks at the big picture, a wannabe gets hung up on crap that doesn't matter. Marlo however is possibly the coldest person on the show in terms of emotions and doesn't even flinch. Having the muscle AND the territory means not really having to USE the muscle very often, at least not fatally. 'Avon was a bad seed, and his father was pure evil' -the reverend (who played the real life Avon o.0), Can't imagine what the generation before Avon's was like, with the Butchies and the old man at the rims shop ("amateurs..."). When the guard confronts Marlo, he replies that the guard's presence meant nothing to him. But it’s the other way.” This describes so much of the last four years for me. Shit no! If you remember, in season four, Marlo had a run-in with a corner store security guard. One side just loses more slowly. The detectives discuss Marimow's destruction of the MCU, whereupon Bunk claims that Marimow has a reputation for being the departmental "unit killer". He steals some sweets that probably don't even cost a dollar. The only time there's a king is when the chess board is set up for the game. The example about Marlo blatantly fucking with the security guard after Omar robs him is a great example of this, as Marlo would rather have his name ring out as the guy setting the rules of the game than anything else.
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